Ed Stein: Ducks Eye View of the Rumor Chart Taking a look at Anaheim Duck mentions on Eklund's rumor chart.

In a ducks fans opinion, what would it take for the Leafs to grab Andersen?
I honestly have no clue, that's why I was wondering from your prospective.

In a ducks fans opinion, what would it take for the Leafs to grab Andersen?
I honestly have no clue, that's why I was wondering from your prospective.
- BoTtLePoLiCe

Goalies are always hard to value, but I'd guess something similar to what Martin Jones was traded for, so a top 6 winger or a prospect and a 1st round pick. Then again, Andersen has shown more in his career than Jones had at the time of his trade, so maybe more.

Many things happening on the rumor mill - nice to speculate but for my money the 2 guys that I thought would be worth bringing in and parting with young D men for are both injured - JVR and RNH - With many teams scrambling for O - Minn - Pit - StL - and others - could have to just count on current stable of guys and win low scoring games - The D is going to get a big boost with the return of Cam and Simon - and has been playing well to begin with - and the goaltending has been for the most part solid -
The Jones - Johannson trade hasn't really moved the needle for either of those teams - Just aren't a ton of finishers / difference makers that teams want to part with that I can see -

I think Vatanen is gone at the draft. The Ducks have some hard decisions to make on the backend, and when it comes down to it, I keep both Fowler and Lindholm over him. Despres was just extended so he's probably not going anywhere. In regards to Theodore, we've got 2 more years of him on his entry level deal before he needs an extension, so it makes sense to keep him for now. Also, I think he ultimately has a higher upside than Vatanen. The Ducks also have a potential Vatanen replacement in Montour who is tearing it up in the AHL. I really like Vatanen, but I think he's the most tradeable and would also bring back a significant return.

In a ducks fans opinion, what would it take for the Leafs to grab Andersen?
I honestly have no clue, that's why I was wondering from your prospective.
- BoTtLePoLiCe

I agree with minimum what Martin Jones got. Same situation. I believe Jones was a RFA when traded as well. Mid round first w/ prospect IMO.

I think Vatanen is gone at the draft. The Ducks have some hard decisions to make on the backend, and when it comes down to it, I keep both Fowler and Lindholm over him. Despres was just extended so he's probably not going anywhere. In regards to Theodore, we've got 2 more years of him on his entry level deal before he needs an extension, so it makes sense to keep him for now. Also, I think he ultimately has a higher upside than Vatanen. The Ducks also have a potential Vatanen replacement in Montour who is tearing it up in the AHL. I really like Vatanen, but I think he's the most tradeable and would also bring back a significant return.
- Always Mighty

Hard decisions indeed. Makes me feel good I'm just the arm chair GM sometimes. Choosing potentially between all the young D man the Ducks have seems to be really hard.

So Bozak and a 5th for Andersen?

Hard decisions indeed. Makes me feel good I'm just the arm chair GM sometimes. Choosing potentially between all the young D man the Ducks have seems to be really hard.
- Orange_me_Black

Agreed, some really hard decisions for Bob to make, both this summer and in the coming years. Don't forget, we also have Larsson and Pettersson in the SHL.

So Bozak and a 5th for Andersen?
- annoyed

Bozak is a center, right? The Ducks need a scoring winger a lot more than they need another center.

Bozak is a center, right? The Ducks need a scoring winger a lot more than they need another center.
- Always Mighty

Oh, we'll slide you Parenteau

You can't compare jones to Anderson. He will fetch a lot more

I think Martin Jones is not a good example, I don't see teams paying a lot to acquire a goalie, too many available. Not ranking them at all but Ward, Howard, Pavlec, Elliot, Mason or Neuvirth, possibly Bishop, the list goes on.

I hope the Jets can get one of your D in a Buff deal.

I think Martin Jones is not a good example, I don't see teams paying a lot to acquire a goalie, too many available. Not ranking them at all but Ward, Howard, Pavlec, Elliot, Mason or Neuvirth, possibly Bishop, the list goes on.

I hope the Jets can get one of your D in a Buff deal.
- Ross77

I assume you mean Stoner, or possibly Bieksa? Otherwise, why in the world would the Ducks trade any of their young D for a player that's UFA at the end of the season? Makes absolutely no sense.

I think Martin Jones is not a good example, I don't see teams paying a lot to acquire a goalie, too many available. Not ranking them at all but Ward, Howard, Pavlec, Elliot, Mason or Neuvirth, possibly Bishop, the list goes on.

I hope the Jets can get one of your D in a Buff deal.
- Ross77

Apples to Oranges. Andersen is RFA at the end of the year and has a WCF run under his belt. The guys you mention are UFA, expensive, and some are has-beens (Ward, Howard) and never-weres (Pavlec)

I assume you mean Stoner, or possibly Bieksa? Otherwise, why in the world would the Ducks trade any of their young D for a player that's UFA at the end of the season? Makes absolutely no sense.
- quackup

"Sami Vatanen (60%) - The more I think about it, the more I think Vatanen should remain with Anaheim and get a contract extension. As good as Shea Theodore is right now, Vatanen is ahead of him. Vatanen is the most creative player the Ducks have on the back end. Murray should consider this before he decides to ship Vatanen out.

Remember when Vatanen was also ahead of Lindholm? An extension for Vatanen is a bad idea for several reasons. First of all, its going to be expensive and long term. Its very unlikely that he signs a 1 year deal. Theodore has a really good chance of leapfrogging him this offseason, so what does that do to your argument for keeping Vatanen because he is ahead of Shea right now?

Also, check this out... Fowler, Despres, Lindholm, Theodore, Manson, Clendening, Montour, Petterson, Larsson. It still looks pretty damn good without Vatanen, and guess what all those players have in common? They are all younger than Vatanen. His highest trade value is from right now until the draft. Might as well capitalize on it and shed some tagging space at the same time.

I assume you mean Stoner, or possibly Bieksa? Otherwise, why in the world would the Ducks trade any of their young D for a player that's UFA at the end of the season? Makes absolutely no sense.
- quackup

Your statement is correct only if whatever team pursuing Buff is unable to resign him before his contract expires at the end of the season. I'll agree that to pursue Buff would be an absolutely horrendous path to head down for the ducks because of the insanely high likelihood that he'll test the open market once this season ends. But there might actually be teams that are willing to take that huge of a gamble and fork over young talent and then give him whatever he wants before he has the chance to negotiate with the rest of the league. That's the answer to your question on why a team would be willing to part with quality young players. It's a high reward/exponentially higher risk type strategy. Hopefully the ducks go for it

The Hurricanes aren't trading Jeff Skinner.

Your statement is correct only if whatever team pursuing Buff is unable to resign him before his contract expires at the end of the season. I'll agree that to pursue Buff would be an absolutely horrendous path to head down for the ducks because of the insanely high likelihood that he'll test the open market once this season ends. But there might actually be teams that are willing to take that huge of a gamble and fork over young talent and then give him whatever he wants before he has the chance to negotiate with the rest of the league. That's the answer to your question on why a team would be willing to part with quality young players. It's a high reward/exponentially higher risk type strategy. Hopefully the ducks go for it
- Woodysdemise

Even in a sign and trade scenario, it still makes little sense. The Ducks don't need D, especially don't need to trade for someone north of 30 making (at least) 6mil for probably 6 years. (They already have an albatross contract with Kesler, don't need another one.) They still need to sign Lindholm/Rakell. Also, unless the Ducks are trading Stoner (possibility), or less likely, Bieksa, there's no room for him. Theodore would slide in and replace Vats on the roster if he's traded.

I think Martin Jones is not a good example, I don't see teams paying a lot to acquire a goalie, too many available. Not ranking them at all but Ward, Howard, Pavlec, Elliot, Mason or Neuvirth, possibly Bishop, the list goes on.

I hope the Jets can get one of your D in a Buff deal.
- Ross77

Martin Jones is the best example. They were trading for a franchise goaltender which is what Andersen would be to whatever team that would potentially get him. I personally would take a young Andersen over every goalie you named here. Now Andersen might cost more then the 3 mil Jones makes a year because he wasn't quite as proven, but a 5 mil Andersen is better then all of the above.

Despres for lovejoy

Martin Jones is the best example. They were trading for a franchise goaltender which is what Andersen would be to whatever team that would potentially get him. I personally would take a young Andersen over every goalie you named here. Now Andersen might cost more then the 3 mil Jones makes a year because he wasn't quite as proven, but a 5 mil Andersen is better then all of the above.
- Orange_me_Black

He's only worth what someone will pay, I was surprised by what Jones fetched I guess time will see what Anderson gets. I would probably take Anderson over my list as well but it all depends on the cost. If its as high as you think maybe I pay less for an older guy while someone in my system ages or I can also pay less for someone with less experience but upside like Subban or Fucale. My main point was it's not a sellers market for goalies.

I assume you mean Stoner, or possibly Bieksa? Otherwise, why in the world would the Ducks trade any of their young D for a player that's UFA at the end of the season? Makes absolutely no sense.
- quackup

pretty sure the Jets will be offered alot more for Buff, if its not Anaheim it will be someone else looking to go for it but hey it seems the Ducks are just happy getting to the Semis.

Ed, there is no chance Shea Theodore gets traded. It's a small sample size I know but I haven't seen Shea make a bad turnover yet, Sami still makes them. Also, for all of his skill with the puck Sami still has a rough time with physical teams. Theodore was fine against the Kings. Theodore may finally be the number one defenseman Anaheim has been looking for. Shea also has a cap friendly contract for the next few years whereas Sami is still negotiating. If Sami and his agent had been proactive like Simon Despres and his agent and signed early then this would be a different story.